Monday, January 2, 2017

Status of Advil & Motrin

Email sent to CRC & Star K on 4/16/15 (response below)


Are Motrin Caplet/Tablets and or Advil Caplet/Tablets free of animal ingredients?
Which one is ok to take, getting conflicting information online (see below)?

   
1) Star K - Lists Motrin as ok but doesn't list Advil as ok
http://www.star-k.org/cons-appr-medicine.htm

2) CRC - Doesn't list either Motrin Caplet/Tablets or Advil Caplet/Tablets as ok
http://www.crcweb.org/OTCMedicineReport.pdf

3) Star-K - "In tablets, the most common possibly non-kosher ingredients are magnesium stearate, calcium stearate, and stearic acid." (Below on the Muslim site it says Motrin has magnesium Stearate Tablets) 
http://www.star-k.org/kashrus/kk-medi-guide.htm

4) Says Motrin has Animal Ingredients
Motrin caplet is made with shellac coating which is dissolved in ethyl alcohol and The magnesium Stearate is made with non zabiha beef fat (Reference number 012174379H based on phone call). August 2012.
http://www.muslimconsumergroup.com/medicine.html


5) Says Advil has NO Animal Ingredients
Advil Ibuprofen Tablets 200mg Pain Reliever/Fever Reducer
Halal, No animal derived ingredients are used. Coating is made of lac resin and polyvinyl alcohol (Halal alcohol). Reference Number: Lauren 215522A dated March 5, 2014.
http://www.muslimconsumergroup.com/medicine.html


There is no kosher branded ibuprofen from what I see.


Response from Star K

From: Rabbi Dovid Heber [mailto:rabbiheber@star-k.org]
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 12:19 PM
Subject: RE: Are Motrin Caplet/Tablets and Advil Caplet/Tablets Free of Animal Ingredients

Motrin tablets and caplets are fine. Any non-kosher is batel.
Advil coated tablets and caplets are fine. However, we have no info on film coated tablets.


Rabbi Dovid Heber
Star-K Kosher Certification
122 Slade Ave.
Baltimore, MD  21208
410-484-4110
Fax- 410-653-9294


Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 12:56 PM
To: Rabbi Dovid Heber
Subject: RE: Are Motrin Caplet/Tablets and Advil Caplet/Tablets Free of Animal Ingredients

Hi Rabbi Heber,

Thank you for your fast response,

So Min Hadin they are both ok - thanks for that info

Also How come only Motrin is listed and not Advil on your list  ?

Although I'd rather not depend on leniency (or is Batel not a leniency but ok as if it was not there)  Le'Chatchila so I was hoping i can find an ibuprofen tab that for sure didn't have any animal Ingredients ( but doesn't exist yet i guess ) .................Is there any preference either way Between Advil or Motrin reg tabs/caps is there any info that one is more recommended than the other ?  

Thank you

ps: i only brought up the hallal thing at the end as they claim Motrin for sure has a beef ingredient   - so all things the same i guess that may lean me more towards Advil but your site only says Motrin is ok and docent mention Advil


From: Rabbi Dovid Heber [mailto:rabbiheber@star-k.org]
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 1:05 PM
Subject: RE: Are Motrin Caplet/Tablets and Advil Caplet/Tablets Free of Animal Ingredients

Advil may have something else batel, we never had it on and only recently after much discussion matir it.

Almost all pill contains stearates. They can be veggie or animal and are typically batel. Almost every pill contains it – if you want to machmir on it, you basically can never take any pills unless they have a hechsher - something rare in the world of medicine.


Rabbi Dovid Heber
Star-K Kosher Certification
122 Slade Ave.
Baltimore, MD  21208
410-484-4110
Fax- 410-653-9294



Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 1:07 PM
To: Rabbi Dovid Heber
Subject: RE: Are Motrin Caplet/Tablets and Advil Caplet/Tablets Free of Animal Ingredients

ok thanks,

so just to confirm there is no preference either way between Advil or Motrin that the star k knows of correct?

  
From: Rabbi Dovid Heber [mailto:rabbiheber@star-k.org]
Subject: RE: Are Motrin Caplet/Tablets and Advil Caplet/Tablets Free of Animal Ingredients


Motrin is better.


Rabbi Dovid Heber
Star-K Kosher Certification
122 Slade Ave.
Baltimore, MD  21208
410-484-4110
Fax- 410-653-9294


Response from CRC

From: Dovid Aronin [mailto:daronin@crcweb.org]
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 10:34 AM
Subject: RE: Are Motrin Caplet/Tablets and Advil Caplet/Tablets Free of Animal Ingredients

Good morning,
Thank you for your excellent question.

The cRc position is that all pills and caplets (except gel caps and liquid-gels) are recommended. This is why the specific brands you are asking about are not listed on our list.  It is because they fall under the general leniency of pills mentioned in the introduction to our list.  This is true even if the pill may contain non-kosher ingredients (such as magnesium stearate which may be from a non-kosher source). This is because the cRc considers all pills to be inedible. As such, the non-kosher ingredients to not pose a problem. Of course, this may not follow the rules of hallal, but we don’t claim to know about hallal guidelines.

Have a nice day.

Rabbi Dovid Aronin
Chicago Rabbinical Council
773.465.3900 X 119



Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 11:51 AM
To: Dovid Aronin
Subject: RE: Are Motrin Caplet/Tablets and Advil Caplet/Tablets Free of Animal Ingredients

Hi Rabbi Aronin,

Thank you for your fast response,

So Min Hadin they are both ok - thanks

Although I'd rather not depend on leniency Le'Chatchila so I was hoping i can find an ibuprofen tab that for sure didn't have any animal Ingredients .................Is there any preference either way Between Advil or Motrin reg tabs/caps is there any info that one is more recommended than the other?  

Thank you

PS: i reason I brought up the hallal thing at the end as they claim Motrin for sure has a beef ingredient   - so all things the same i guess that may lean me more towards Advil


From: Dovid Aronin [mailto:daronin@crcweb.org]
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 2:26 PM
Subject: RE: Are Motrin Caplet/Tablets and Advil Caplet/Tablets Free of Animal Ingredients


We have no additional information, as for our sake, it is not relevant.

Have a nice day.

Rabbi Dovid Aronin
Chicago Rabbinical Council
773.465.3900 X 119






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